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04/13/2017 05:00 PM House RESOURCES

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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 211 NONRESIDENT HUNTING REQUIREMENTS: CARIBOU TELECONFERENCED
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-- Public Testimony --
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                HB 177-AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:37:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR announced that the next order of business would be                                                                
HOUSE BILL  NO. 177,  "An Act  relating to  the response  to, and                                                               
control of,  aquatic invasive  species; establishing  the aquatic                                                               
invasive species response fund; and  relating to the provision of                                                               
information  about  aquatic  invasive  species to  users  of  the                                                               
Alaska marine highway system."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TARR  said  public testimony  was  opened  [during  the                                                               
hearing of HB 177 on 4/7/17] and remained open.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  STALLARD,  Chairperson,  Alaska Committee  for  Noxious  and                                                               
Invasive  Pest  Management  (CMPM),  which  is  the  professional                                                               
association for the  study and management of  invasive species in                                                               
Alaska,  expressed  CMPM's  support  of HB  177.    Mr.  Stallard                                                               
informed  the committee  invasive  species are  defined as  those                                                               
that  cause  harm  to natural  resources,  health,  and  economic                                                               
value; in fact,  across the U.S. invasive species  cause the loss                                                               
of  hundreds of  billions of  dollars each  year in  crop losses,                                                               
damage,  and  ecological  harm.    Alaska's  low  population  and                                                               
extreme  climate have  slowed the  arrival  and establishment  of                                                               
invasive  species, but  the state  needs to  be prepared  to take                                                               
rapid  action  when  necessary,  in   a  manner  similar  to  the                                                               
prevention of, and  quick response to, wildfires.   The intent of                                                               
the  bill is  to  allow  the Alaska  Department  of  Fish &  Game                                                               
(ADFG),  the Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR), and  other                                                               
state agencies  to respond  quickly to  the presence  of invasive                                                               
species.   Mr. Stallard pointed  out additional  invasive species                                                               
vectors should  be addressed in  statute and regulation,  such as                                                               
watercraft  arriving via  land borders,  marine ports,  aircraft,                                                               
and  imported  material  and  equipment  with  access  to  Alaska                                                               
waterbodies.    Additional  issues   are  the  release  of  pets,                                                               
aquarium dumping,  illegal stocking, and the  instate movement of                                                               
boats  and  equipment.    Further, CMPM  seeks  to  ensure  state                                                               
agencies hold  authority to  write effective  regulations related                                                               
to  aquatic invasive  species.   He  expressed  concern that  the                                                               
Division of Agriculture, DNR, is  over five years behind updating                                                               
its  regulations  regarding  "the   noxious  weeds  list."    Mr.                                                               
Stallard  closed,  noting  that  Alaskans  rely  on  the  state's                                                               
natural resources for  food, work, and fun,  and invasive species                                                               
threaten the Alaska  way of life. He urged for  passage of HB 177                                                               
this session.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:42:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ARTHUR KEYES,  director, Division  of Agriculture,  Department of                                                               
Natural Resources,  said the noxious  weed regulations  "are just                                                               
one  of many  of the  regulations that  we have  on our  plate to                                                               
update."   He said the  division is  looking to have  progress on                                                               
updating regulations this year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH   asked  for  an  approximate   number  of                                                               
trailers and vessels coming into the state annually.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:44:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL NEUSSL, deputy commissioner,  Office of the Commissioner,                                                               
Alaska    Marine   Highway    System   (AMHS),    Department   of                                                               
Transportation & Public Facilities  (DOTPF) directed attention to                                                               
a written response  [in the committee packet  dated 4/10/17] that                                                               
included information  on traffic volumes entering  the state from                                                               
Bellingham, Washington  and Prince Rupert, British  Columbia.  He                                                               
said the traffic volumes include  vehicles other than boats.  The                                                               
definition  of boat  or watercraft  is nebulous  and may  include                                                               
kayaks, canoes, and personal watercraft  carried on vehicles that                                                               
are not tracked individually.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR reported from  the aforementioned written response:                                                               
From Prince  Rupert, 77 port  calls and 2,753  vehicles embarked;                                                               
from Bellingham, 68 port calls and 5,689 vehicles embarked.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEUSSL added AMHS does  track nonmotorized vehicles embarking                                                               
with  walk-on passengers  such as  bicycles, kayaks,  and canoes;                                                               
the total number  systemwide was 1,755 for  nonmotorized forms of                                                               
transportation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH  reasoned from  the provided  response that                                                               
.3  percent  of  8,000  vehicles  embarked  would  be  about  240                                                               
trailers  entering the  state from  Prince Rupert  and Bellingham                                                               
during fiscal year 2015.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEUSSL   clarified  the  definition  of   trailers  includes                                                               
trailers  not  carrying  boats.   In  further  to  Representative                                                               
Parish,  he  expressed  his  belief  that  DOTPF  does  not  have                                                               
information on the number of boats entering the state on roads.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR closed public testimony.   Before the committee was                                                               
HB 177.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR moved to adopt Amendment 1 which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3:                                                                                                            
           Delete "users of the Alaska marine highway                                                                         
     system"                                                                                                                  
       Insert:    "certain    persons   registering    or                                                                     
     transporting boats"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 4                                                                                                   
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "*Section 1. AS 05.25.055 is amended by adding a                                                                      
     new subsection to read:                                                                                                    
               (j)  To the  extent possible,  the Department                                                                    
     of  Administration  shall  ensure  that  a  person  who                                                                    
     registers a  boat under this  section is  provided with                                                                    
     any  information relating  to aquatic  invasive species                                                                    
     that  has  been  published  in  pamphlet  form  by  the                                                                    
     Department of  Natural Resources  or the  Department of                                                                    
     Fish and Game."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1                                                                                                   
          Insert "Sec. 2                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR restated the bill  is creating infrastructure for a                                                               
rapid response fund to prevent  delays in the state's response to                                                               
the presence  of invasive  species.   Because prevention  is less                                                               
expensive than  treatment, Amendment 1 expands  the dissemination                                                               
of   prevention  information   to   include   not  only   persons                                                               
transporting  boats  via  AMHS,  but through  the  Department  of                                                               
Administration, and  thereby the  Division of Motor  Vehicles, to                                                               
those registering  a boat in  the state.   As an aside,  she said                                                               
floatplanes    are   regulated    by    the   Federal    Aviation                                                               
Administration, U. S. Department of Transportation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JOSEPHSON  asked  whether  AMHS is  still  required  to                                                               
educate and inform.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TARR  said yes;  individuals  traveling  on AMHS  would                                                               
receive  information, and  individuals registering  a boat  would                                                               
receive information from the Division of Motor Vehicles.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON withdrew his objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:52:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  objected.   She  asked  where the  bill                                                               
directs AMHS to provide information to passengers with boats.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR directed attention to the  bill on page 3, lines 4-                                                               
10, which read:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      *Sec. 2. AS 19.65 is amended by adding a new section                                                                    
     to read:                                                                                                                   
            Sec. 19.65.033. Provision of information                                                                          
      relating to aquatic invasive species.  To the extent                                                                    
     possible,  the   commissioner  of   transportation  and                                                                    
     public  facilities  shall  ensure  that  a  person  who                                                                    
     purchases a  ticket for vehicle  deck space on  a ferry                                                                    
     for  the  purpose of  transporting  a  vessel into  the                                                                    
     state  is provided  with  any  information relating  to                                                                    
     aquatic  invasive species  that has  been published  in                                                                    
     pamphlet form  by the  Department of  Natural Resources                                                                    
     or the Alaska Department of Fish & Game.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  removed her  objection.  There  being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH directed attention to  [the bill on page 1,                                                               
line 14, and page 2, lines 1 and 2] which read [in part]:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     response  to, and  management of,  an aquatic  invasive                                                                    
     species  under  (a)  of this  section  shall  be  given                                                                    
     priority  over activities  regulated by  the department                                                                    
     in  the  area  where  an  incipient  population  of  an                                                                    
     aquatic invasive species is being targeted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH questioned  whether  "given priority  over                                                               
activities  regulated   by  the  department,"  for   an  invasive                                                               
population that could  not be eradicated in  a reasonable period,                                                               
would override other vital activities of the department.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:54:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY DAVIS,  Invasive Species Coordinator, Alaska  Department of                                                               
Fish  &  Game, in  response  to  Representative Parish  after  he                                                               
restated  his question,  said,  "When I  read  that statement,  I                                                               
would  believe  that  responding to  that  introduced  population                                                               
would be the number one priority."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  pointed out the purpose  of the bill is  to enable                                                               
rapid response and thus is  supposed to create the infrastructure                                                               
necessary  [for  ADFG] to  immediately  respond.   Otherwise,  an                                                               
"expensive regulatory process" must be followed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH gave  the example  of Sitka,  which has  a                                                               
severe  [Didemnum  vexillum  (Dvex)]   problem,  and  stated  his                                                               
concern that  the bill would  direct ADFG to move  resources away                                                               
from other critical  activities.  He asked Ms.  Davis whether the                                                               
bill would  change the way  ADFG has been managing  the incipient                                                               
aquatic invasive population of Dvex in Sitka.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIS said  she  is  a biologist,  "more  so  than a  policy                                                               
person."   She  explained the  "Dvex efforts"  in Sitka  thus far                                                               
have  not  taken  from  other   management  priorities  of  ADFG;                                                               
however,  the department  requested  that  boaters avoid  Whiting                                                               
Harbor  because of  the invasive  species, although  it does  not                                                               
have enforcement  authority.  She said  Representative Parish has                                                               
asked a policy  question, and she was  not comfortable responding                                                               
to how the proposed statute would be interpreted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
7:00:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH proposed  [a conceptual amendment] deleting                                                               
the language "over activities regulated  by the department in the                                                               
area,"  and thereby  the  intent would  remain  that priority  is                                                               
given  where  an  incipient population  of  an  aquatic  invasive                                                               
species is being targeted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR restated  the intent of the bill is  to enable ADFG                                                               
to legally  prioritize management of an  aquatic invasive species                                                               
outbreak, because  the department has  other statutorily-mandated                                                               
obligations.   She  expressed her  understanding  ADFG seeks  the                                                               
ability to  separate its responsibilities in  order to prioritize                                                               
managing an  outbreak and take  immediate action.   Co-Chair Tarr                                                               
opined ADFG would not want said language deleted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH suggested  changing  "shall"  [on page  2,                                                               
line 1] to "may."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  said she would  not support the change  because it                                                               
would change the intent of the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH  related he  has received  reassurance from                                                               
ADFG that the abovementioned language in  the bill "is more of an                                                               
intent  statement,  and not  one  that  would prevent  them  from                                                               
accomplishing  other  high  priority activities,"  and  said  his                                                               
fears are assuaged on that point.   He then directed attention to                                                               
page 2, lines 16-18 which read [in part]:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ...   the  department   shall  respond   in  a   manner                                                                    
     determined to cause the least  harm to noninvasive fish                                                                    
     populations  that are  used for  recreational, personal                                                                    
     use, commercial, or subsistence purposes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH  observed often the manner  that causes the                                                               
least harm is the most expensive.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  noted that  the fund  created by  the bill  is not                                                               
funded  at this  time, but  should there  be an  aquatic invasive                                                               
species outbreak, there  would be "a place for the  money to go."                                                               
She expressed  her preference  for the use  of mechanical  - over                                                               
chemical  -   means  of  managing   an  invasive  species.     In                                                               
transportation  corridors  pesticides  are  less  expensive  than                                                               
mechanical control  methods, and the  language in the  bill gives                                                               
the department flexibility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
7:05:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH  gave an example  of an elodea  outbreak in                                                               
which  an  herbicide  is  deemed the  most  effective  means  for                                                               
eradication,  but  would  be  more   harmful  than  a  mechanical                                                               
approach.    He opined  the  bill  would  mandate  the use  of  a                                                               
mechanical   method  and   thus  provide   only  an   "incomplete                                                               
solution."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR said the alternative  selected would not provide an                                                               
incomplete  solution  because  the  goal  is  eradication  of  an                                                               
aquatic  invasive  species;  however, there  are  concerns  about                                                               
using  chemicals  in  freshwater  lakes and  streams  to  control                                                               
northern pike, and  she wants the bill to  minimize the potential                                                               
for harm.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH is  also opposed  to poison  in lakes  and                                                               
suggested  the  bill  should  direct  "minimal  total  ecological                                                               
impact."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:07:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
7:08:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 177 was held over.